I currently live in Italy with my wife who is an Italian and I have Italian residence permit card, can I apply for a Norweigian reisidence permit if my mother lives in Norway and is it possible to hold the two residence permits at the same time?
1
-
What's your citizenship? So you're Norwegian or Sweden?– PacerierOct 11, 2016 at 5:12
Add a comment
|
1 Answer
Common sense suggests it's difficult to fully “reside“ in two countries at once. Either you care for your mother (the main way to qualify for a family member permit for extended family) and being there every other week isn't enough or you actually live with your wife. Splitting your time equally between both countries might just meet the standard for residence in each of them but it feels like you would be awfully close to lying about your intents when applying for a permit.
In any case, you can certainly apply for a new residence card elsewhere, there is no rule against that (that's also what you would be doing if you were to move permanently to Norway and never come back to Italy) and, to my knowledge, no system to exchange information between countries about those residence cards.
What could happen is that, come the time to renew your Italian residence card, it would be refused because you don't meet the definition of a resident anymore or are found to have effectively left the country. There are several reasons why it might still work in this case but that's what you should worry about. And vice versa for Norway.
-
There's no such thing as "awfully close to lying about your intents", because either it would have been valid and thus "fully recognized", or it would not have been valid and thus "fully unrecognized".– PacerierOct 11, 2016 at 5:13
-
@Pacerier I honestly do not understand your point. What's "it" in your sentence? What do you mean by "valid"? And what does it have to do with whether the OP lied or not when applying for a permit?– GalaOct 13, 2016 at 8:46
-
1Meaning the "awfully close to lying about your intents" doesn't matter as it wouldn't be relevant as far as the legal fact is concerned. The requirements are either met or they are not. If the requirement is to clock 100 days and you had that, then it's a pass. If the requirement is to clock 183 days and you had that, then it's a pass.– PacerierOct 14, 2016 at 11:46
-
@Pacerier Of course, it matters, when it comes to immigration, it really works the other way around. The number of days is just the beginning and actually works against you: It means that, as a non-EU citizen, you need a residence permit (as opposed to a short-stay visa or visa-free stay). Intent, conditions of stay, etc. then become relevant, those are the actual requirements. They don't just hand out those by virtue of staying more than X days…– GalaOct 15, 2016 at 11:01
-
The intent is only accessed at the interview. And like every other interview people have prepared standard scripts to recite. In other words, before you enter the interview and after you exit the interview, your intent remains irrelevant. You could tell everyone you met on the street about your real intent and you'd still be a pass as that's irrelevant.– PacerierOct 18, 2016 at 12:42