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Dec 1, 2020 at 21:26 comment added Relaxed I already discussed that 4 hours ago. That Germany disregards EU law doesn't change the meaning of the regulation. What basis do you have to claim the purpose is the main factor when duration of stay is the only one mentioned explicitly? What do you make of the fact that the only non-Schengen visas envisioned by the regulation are “national long-stay visas” and states explicitly that this is the meaning of the “D" code on the sticker?
Dec 1, 2020 at 21:19 comment added Mark Johnson @Relaxed No, because a D-Visa can be issued for less than 3 months and for other purposes outside the commonly agreed Schengen visa policy. germany - German student visa is issued for only 2 months: why? and is it a common practice? - Expatriates Stack Exchange
Dec 1, 2020 at 21:03 comment added Relaxed I never mentioned residence or suggested people shouldn't care about the kind of visa they have, I just reminded you that the distinction between a Schengen visa (marked with a C on the sticker) and a national long-stay visa (marked with a D) is the length of stay (longer or shorter than 90 days), not the purpose. Are we in agreement with that? Do you realize your initial comment was wrong? Will you edit your answer accordingly?
Dec 1, 2020 at 20:55 comment added Mark Johnson @Relaxed The point is, that all visa holder needs to do is look at the visa sticker the see what type of visa they have. During the first lockdown, those that had a D were allowed in, those with a C were not.
Dec 1, 2020 at 20:48 comment added Mark Johnson @Relaxed That was solely a rearion to your 'what you insist on calling "D-visa"' comment. The fact if the matter is that they are visas issued based on national laws, not all of which is to take up residence. For Germany Working-Holiday-Visa (§ 19c Abs 1 AufenthG) is one of these cases. The purpose, a § number, will be added in the remarks portion of the visa sticker which have the type D.
Dec 1, 2020 at 20:24 comment added Relaxed For it's obviously right there, in the annex you chose to bring up, "D: long-stay visa". What kind of point is that?
Dec 1, 2020 at 20:16 comment added Relaxed Skillful way to deflect without addressing any of the substantial points I made, well done. Of course, I know the code exists but the fact is that what this code represents is actually called a “national long-stay visa”. Repeatedly, all over the regulation and elsewhere. Are you denying that? Never encountered the phrase? How does the annex negate all the contents of the regulation? Are you confused about the meaning of “long-stay”? Or what?
Dec 1, 2020 at 20:06 comment added Mark Johnson @Relaxed Oh, please go on with Annex VII (Filling in the visa sticker) of the Visa Code: In order to facilitate matters for the control authorities, this heading specifies the type of visa using the letters A, C and D.... This is how the border control (and I assume the Airlines) know which type of visa the traveler has.
Dec 1, 2020 at 17:06 comment added Relaxed I could go on as this is evident in many small details of the text but the clearest evidence is that what you insist on calling "D-visa" is in fact only referred to as a “national long-stay visa" in this regulation and the rest of EU law.
Dec 1, 2020 at 17:05 comment added Relaxed Consider for example, article 1(1) of the Schengen visa code: "This Regulation establishes the procedures and conditions for issuing visas for intended stays on the territory of the Member States not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period." No mention of purpose, clear duration limit and if countries could simply have a parallel system of short-term visas that would be a massive loophole and defeat the whole purpose of the regulation.
Dec 1, 2020 at 17:01 comment added Relaxed I wouldn't be surprised if some countries did it, it's not worth fighting over for the Commission (which has essentially given up enforcing the Schengen regulations) but that's simply not the case. That's plain to see in the text of the regulations, the various handbooks, etc. Countries that do apply them correctly certainly do not issue D-visas in these situations.
Dec 1, 2020 at 10:01 comment added Mark Johnson @Relaxed Here you are wrong. The difference is the purpose and not the length. A D-Visa can also (and for students often are before semester begin) be issued for a 30 day period.
Dec 1, 2020 at 9:46 comment added Relaxed The distinction between Schengen visas and national ("D") visas is based on the length of stay, not the purpose. Your answer muddles the two and that's not particularly helpful.
Nov 27, 2020 at 6:10 history answered Mark Johnson CC BY-SA 4.0