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This may be similar to the 5 year ban question earlier asked, but I believe there are some areas of divergence. Last year I got a 2 year ban for visa overstay in Denmark, my husband became a EU citizen 3 months ago so we want to exercise the treaty right in the Netherlands or Sweden or Norway, will the ban allow me to register as a spouse of an EU citizen?.

  1. I was told that an over stay ban takes priority over any other consideration

  2. Denmark particularly do not lift ban

  3. Netherlands can not issue the treaty right residence even if they want to, because in all cases of overstay, a member state can not override the ban issued by another another member state.

  4. On the Norwegian Immigration's website ie UDI, It stated that people with BAN and schengen alert can not enjoy free movement right treaty

  5. HOWEVER, I heard that the only positive thing going for me is that the marriage has been done years back in our country before even coming to Europe, so the issue of bogus marriage is ruled out completely.

Please I need your good contribution, and if possible some one point me to any piece of legislature in the EU that substantiate the fact that over stay ban ought not to hinder the enjoyment of free movement treaty right.

Thank you wonderful people

PLEASE I WILL LIKE TO ADD AN UPDATE TO THE POST. Good day, all. Please I wanted to add some more information as per update. I have applied to Danish immigration to put the deportation on hold based on my new status as an EU family member; unfortunately, they refused the request and insist on the deportation Please what else can I do to stop the deportation. Meanwhile, I have made requests for the removal of the SIS alert on my name and also the entry ban,as I write, I am still waiting for the outcome.

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  • This question is similar to: 5-year entry ban in 2015 by Swedish authorities. In 2018 I got married to my Irish wife. Should I wait until 2020 when the ban expires?. If you believe it’s different, please edit the question, make it clear how it’s different and/or how the answers on that question are not helpful for your problem.
    – Relaxed
    Commented Jul 18 at 6:44
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    Legally it shouldn't be an issue, the earlier question gets into some details but a ban for an overstay is not in and of itself enough to block someone from exercising their (derived) freedom of movement rights.
    – Relaxed
    Commented Jul 18 at 6:46
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    I was told that an over stay ban takes priority over any other consideration No it doesn't and the answer to the other question also covers that. A ban following a criminal conviction is obviously more serious than an overstay ban and even that doesn't automatically disqualify you. The general principle is the same, the only thing that can legally be use to justify refusing a visa to join your EU spouse is that you pose a current danger to “public safety, public health, or public policy”, nothing you did in the past. The answer won't change.
    – Relaxed
    Commented Jul 20 at 8:02
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    OTOH, if your questions is about how to go about it in practice, you need to ask about that specifically and provide a lot more details. The more general answer is that if the authorities disregard the rules and somehow prevent you from entering, you'll need a lawyer to figure out the details.
    – Relaxed
    Commented Jul 20 at 8:03
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    Note that marrying abroad doesn't really guarantee anything regarding the status of your marriage. French authorities for exemple might check that you physically live together and have denied residence permit when they think they have proof that the applicants do not really behave as a married couple.
    – Relaxed
    Commented Jul 20 at 8:08

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  1. I was told that an over stay ban takes priority over any other consideration

Who told you this? They're wrong. Rights under the free movement directive take priority over the restrictions of the Schengen codes and national law.

On the Norwegian Immigration's website ie UDI, It stated that people with BAN and schengen alert can not enjoy free movement right treaty

I think I see what you are talking about. For example, the page for Residence card for family members of EU/EEA nationals says

You must not be subject to a prohibition against entry to Norway or Schengen.

I believe this is likely the result of a misinterpretation of the Schengen Borders Code, which says at Article 6(1)(d)

  1. For intended stays on the territory of the Member States of a duration of no more than 90 days in any 180-day period, which entails considering the 180-day period preceding each day of stay, the entry conditions for third-country nationals shall be the following:

...

(d) they are not persons for whom an alert has been issued in the SIS for the purposes of refusing entry;

This is not as straightforward as it seems, because there is a counterintuitive definition of "third-country national" at article 2(6):

  1. ‘third-country national’ means any person who is not a Union citizen within the meaning of Article 20(1) TFEU and who is not covered by point 5 of this Article;

Article 2(5) reads

  1. ‘persons enjoying the right of free movement under Union law’ means:

(a) Union citizens within the meaning of Article 20(1) TFEU, and third-country nationals who are members of the family of a Union citizen exercising his or her right to free movement to whom Directive 2004/38/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council ( 1 ) applies;

(b) third-country nationals and their family members, whatever their nationality, who, under agreements between the Union and its Member States, on the one hand, and those third countries, on the other hand, enjoy rights of free movement equivalent to those of Union citizens;

Thus, when you are traveling with your EU-citizen husband, Article 6 does not apply to you and your entry ban, which would otherwise require you to be excluded under article 6(1)(d), is irrelevant. Instead, the law governing your admission is the free movement directive.

The problem, then, is to get the Norwegian authorities to recognize this. Since their interpretation is very formally expressed on their website and through the administrative procedures detailed there, this seems unlikely without a lawyer and possibly a court. Without hiring a lawyer, you can do one or both of the following:

  • complain that the information on the website is inconsistent with EU law and ask them to justify the inconsistency.
  • request clarification on the policy through Your Europe Advice
  • if your nationality requires you to apply for a visa, you can submit the application so you have a formal refusal in hand.

Once you have a formal statement of the policy, preferably citing the legal basis of the policy, you can try taking it to SOLVIT. If that doesn't work, you'll probably need a lawyer or to choose a different country.


I just noticed your comment from July 23rd on a deleted answer:

Thank you all for always being there. If I may ask, do they have the right to come and grab me and put me forcefully on the next flight?. The question ,may sound stupid, please I just need help with your input.

They always have that right under some circumstances, but as the spouse of an EU citizen, you can't be expelled from an EU country if you are there with your spouse, unless the authorities of the country find that you are a serious threat to public safety, public health, or public policy. The requisite seriousness is such that this is essentially inapplicable to almost everyone. Even a person who has been convicted of a serious crime must be shown to be a present risk to public safety; the past conviction on its own is insufficient to justify the finding.

So, assuming that you are in the large majority of people who cannot be expelled under the free movement directive, you would only be expelled if the authorities challenge the applicability of the directive in your case. For example, user Relaxed has noted the possibility that they would not recognize your marriage. This is probably unlikely, but it does happen.

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  • A visa or residence card application would force a review of the previous ban under the new conditions set out in Article 27 (which an simple overstay would not fullfill) of the Freedom of Movement. Second Paragraph of 27 (2): The personal conduct of the individual concerned must represent a genuine, present and sufficiently serious threat affecting one of the fundamental interests of society. Justifications that are isolated from the particulars of the case or that rely on considerations of general prevention shall not be accepted. Commented Jul 19 at 9:50
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    @MarkJohnson but Norway says you have to apply first, separately, for the ban to be lifted before you can apply successfully for a visa. In theory, at least, it ought to be possible for a ban to be kept in place, so a banned family member of an EU citizen would be able to visit the Schengen area only with the EU citizen. Obviously that's less important in cases where the family is seeking to establish residence in the Schengen area.
    – phoog
    Commented Jul 19 at 10:03
  • A judge will make a determinantion based on what is written in the Directive 2004/38/EC and not what is written on a website. Commented Jul 19 at 14:52
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    @MarkJohnson of course. But it shouldn't be necessary to go as far as putting the question to a judge. The fact that the (official) website seems to show this misinterpretation, however, implies that it might be. At least it looks as though a Norwegian government lawyer would have to be involved to get Norway to change their administrative procedure.
    – phoog
    Commented Jul 19 at 18:57
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    If your EU-citizen spouse is outside of the EU, then they are not exercising their freedom of movement right. You, as the spouse of an EU-citizen, can only take advantage of their freedom of movement right when traveling with (or joining) the EU-citizen. Therefore you are a 3rd country national that must abide by the immigration laws as any other 3rd country national must. Commented Aug 10 at 15:47

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